A qualified avian vet who doesn't mind consulting with you doing home clinical

Courses in microbiology, bacteria and sterilization ( I have had all in 1960

with my teaching these courses in the local college in years past)

With the web page for microbio products.com/avianintro.htm I state this may be a good sourse of reference however,

Dr. Branson Ritchie did NOT send nor endorse nor refered me to microbio products

( www.microbioproducts.com/avianintro.htm company for my supplies.

Maybe if you have psittacines that are not endangered there may be a

difference. I happen to breed endangered exotic psittacines as Hyacinthines,

Scarlets, Red Fronted Macaws, Queens of Bavaria, etc.....I do my buying of

My Microscope came through the assistance of Dr. Tom Goldsmith

I have a consulting Qualified Avian Vet (Diplomate of Avian medicine) if

something is beyond my abilities where an overnite specimen is sent to his office.

As I wrote in my last post.....without a qualified avian vet to consult with

this is useless....for IF you have a disease that needs treatment....who is

I have a supplier with a qualified avian vets license number down on my

account to give me what I need in my orders so that when the doctor tells me I need something I have it on hand.

Now, this calls for a real trust between several doctors and my having the

ability to follow through with directions when given by the doctor , as well

I also have another avian vet that if I'm in a real hurry and I'm waiting for

the results at one vets office, I can send blood smear on a microplate overnite

to him to get some kind of idea of what is going on with a bird.

THe doctors I work with have a mutural respect, kins manship as well, they

trust that I have an idea of what is going on with my own birds so they work

with me , web site could be just enought information to give you trouble or.....if you know microbiology it could be a wonderful source of information..however..

what happens if you got everything correct to your judgement...and you isolated everything with count (light, medium or heavy growth) and the sensitivity of resistant or sensitive? Where are going to find a qualified avian vet who'll back you up with the drugs of choice for this bacteria???

You must have a consulting assistance of a good qualified avian vet , one

who'll teach you more and discuss with you the diagnosis of your clilnical

microbiology , and take some suggestions from you regarding treatment. The other concern I have some Vets will be intimidated by your knowledge, and will NOT treat your birds with your clinical microbiology at home.

Before you start this home clinical microbiology I do suggest you get the

approval of your vet and bring him into your plan of avain medicine and of

course, the science of veterinary care is changing each day so to stay abreast of all educational seminars as well, anything else you can show your qualified avian vet that you are involved with the avian medicine upkeep and care for your psittaicines.

Clinical microbiology at home is not to be achieved accurately by a

informational website...it must be incorporated with your avian veterinarian

From: Susan Swope-Attardi (SusanSwopeAttardi@worldnet.att.net)

>Hi Cherane, and anyone else who might have advice on this subject. I'm

>curious as to how you learned to culture at home. Is this something I could

Hi Susan, I have many years dealing with microbiology, bacteria under my belt ...although with birds to id any growth demand knowledge of microbiology.

One, before anyone thinks they need to do clinical microbiology they can take courses at their local College in microbilogy.

My self, I have a outside vent where my cultures grow and away from all

birds/people. I would not myself attempt to grow anything that even "hints" of fungas, yeast...but that is my personal opinion.

I always follow up with a culture sent to my vet if anything is out of my

knowledge.....I think every aviculturist with a nursery needs to have knowledge with clinical microbilogy, bacteria, and sterilization procedures . With that, a good microscoope is needed along with the ability of doing stains or gram stains.

without a qualified avian vet to assist you in any diagnotic followup if you

I like being able to tell my vet what I have done and what causes me concern as he'll rule out what he suspects. However, overnite specimens can be sent as a followup.

this is very comforting in my nursery management for if anything happens I'm one step ahead and have a plan set out.

again, a good consulting avian vet courses in microbiology

a good microscope (my vet helped me get mine) supplier ( again, a qualified avian vet set this up) once qualified , you'll have no problems with your supplies and instructions as you'll know what to order from your microbiology courses.